Quotes from Herbert Kohl's "I Won't Learn from You"
1) “My job as a teacher was to get him to feel more empowered
doing reading than practicing his active not-learning to read. I developed a strategy of empowerment for
Barry and didn’t even bother with thinking about remediation.”
It was
interesting reading about the method Kohl chose to use to reach out to
Barry. It would have been easy to assume
that Barry’s behavior regarding reading was due to the fact that he couldn’t
read, or had a hard time reading. And in
fact, this is what had happened with Barry’s previous teachers. But instead, Kohl took the time to step back
and figure out WHY Barry was behaving the way he was. He recognized that it wasn’t that Barry
needed any more help than other kids, but that he wanted to cling to that sense
of empowerment he got from getting his way and having the other kids see him
get his way. So Kohl devised another way
to give him that same sense of empowerment, but in a constructive way that got
him to learn the material. I think this
is important to note – that as teachers, when a student is acting out (or
shutting down), we should take a step back and try to figure out why that might
be happening, which is essentially what Kohl continues to indicate throughout
the article. In the end, it could be
that the student is struggling or failing. But that might not be the case, and in assuming
so without trying to see what else is going on and figuring out a different
approach, the system winds up failing the student.
2) “I learned from Akmir’s analyses … and came to take his
criticisms seriously. I tried to read
texts from his point of view…. In some cases, it made reading some familiar
material very uncomfortable.”
This made
me think of Johnson’s piece, when he was talking about sitting in the
restaurant with his African-American colleague, and how he could feel how
uncomfortable it was to talk to her about race and gender. That was a moment where someone tapped on his
glass pane (to borrow Dr. Bogad’s metaphor).
In the same way, it was uncomfortable for Kohl to read from a different
perspective, because Akmir had tapped on his glass pane. “The ease of being unaware of privilege is an
aspect of privilege itself” (Johnson
24). Becoming aware of his privilege,
and making the effort to look at things from Akmir’s view, allowed Kohl to
understand just what it was that had made Akmir resistant to his
schooling. (I noticed at the beginning
of this segment that Kohl said he’d “had the privilege of knowing [Akmir] for
the last three years of his life” (3)
Did anyone else wonder what might have happened to him?)
3) “Education built on accepting that truth about our society
can break through not-learning and lead students and teachers together, not to
the solution of problems but to direct intelligent engagement in the struggles
that might lead to solutions.”
Here, Kohl
is referring to the truth that for a lot of students, the only options they
feel they have are not-learning, or directly facing oppression in school. This is going to result in students who act
out, or shut down when it comes to academics. If we accept that this as a reason for
students to reject their schooling—because as Kohl says, it is “an appropriate
response to oppressive education … students have no way to legitimately
criticize…” (5)—then we can have the dialogue needed to address the struggle. And as with last week’s piece, I’m reminded
again of how Johnson says that we need to be able to talk if we can expect
anything to change. (I feel like I am
always referring to this part of Johnson’s article!)
Extended Comment on Alfie Kohn's "5 Reasons to Stop Saying Good Job"
Reading through Jaclyn’s response to Kohn’s article, “5
Reasons to Stop Saying Good Job,” I realized that I felt the same way the first
time I read the article. It seems almost
counter-intuitive to not use praise as positive reinforcement, and it seems
even more counter-intuitive that praising a child could somehow be
harmful. It’s something I hear all the
time in any situation where small kids are present, and I can remember hearing
it when I was little too. How could it
be bad to encourage a desired behavior, or bolster confidence? After glancing through the article again
later though, and I can understand the points that Kohn is making. Kohn even remarks that “it can seem strange,
at least at first, to stop
praising; it can feel as though you’re being chilly or withholding something.” But he’s not so much saying that you have to
stop positive reinforcement altogether—though he does list “say nothing” as a
possible option—but more just to modify what you are saying. Like acknowledging what they’ve done without
evaluating it.
It made
me think of how I am in my SLP classroom of kindergarteners. I’ve made a conscious effort not to say
“Awesome!” for everything, though not for the reasons Kohn lists. I just know that I tend to catch myself doing
it when I’m talking to little kids. (“That
looks awesome!” “Awesome job!” “You did?
Awesome!”) But I wonder
what Kohn would say about all the high-fives I’m now doling out left and right
to the kids in the class. Is that just
non-verbal praise?
Also -- I found Jennifer Lehr's website while poking around. She lists Alfie Kohn as her hero. Good Job and Other Things You Shouldn't Say or Do. Interesting to look through.








